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	<title>Comments on: Foreign Woman Removes Top At Beach in Qingdao, Causes Major Disturbance</title>
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		<title>By: Chae Thielemier</title>
		<link>http://mattschiavenza.com/2009/08/24/foreign-woman-removes-top-at-beach-in-qingdao-causes-major-disturbance/comment-page-1/#comment-149851</link>
		<dc:creator>Chae Thielemier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ou might have not intended to achieve this, but I think you have were able to express your mind that many individuals have been in. The sense of wanting to help, however , not knowing how or where, is something a lot of us coping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ou might have not intended to achieve this, but I think you have were able to express your mind that many individuals have been in. The sense of wanting to help, however , not knowing how or where, is something a lot of us coping.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh get over it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh get over it</p>
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		<title>By: Topless Women, Rule Of Law, And Perceptions Of China. &#171; THE INTERNET POST</title>
		<link>http://mattschiavenza.com/2009/08/24/foreign-woman-removes-top-at-beach-in-qingdao-causes-major-disturbance/comment-page-1/#comment-81361</link>
		<dc:creator>Topless Women, Rule Of Law, And Perceptions Of China. &#171; THE INTERNET POST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] September 19, 2009 by ajfloyd    Matt Schivenza&#8217;s always interesting blog has a new post up on nudity (well, sorta) in China, entitled, &#8220;Foreign Woman Removes Top At Beach in Qingdao, Causes Major Disturbance.&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] September 19, 2009 by ajfloyd    Matt Schivenza&#8217;s always interesting blog has a new post up on nudity (well, sorta) in China, entitled, &#8220;Foreign Woman Removes Top At Beach in Qingdao, Causes Major Disturbance.&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: matt_schiavenza</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt_schiavenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah- the one pic associated with this story was a distant shot of a vaguely blonde woman&#039;s nude back. Hot shit! That- and the normal technical troubles that have become de rigeur at this blog- are why I didn&#039;t bother with the pics.

There are plenty of places online where you can find naked boobs on the beach, and a frontal shot no less. I suggest going there for your tittilation (pun intended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah- the one pic associated with this story was a distant shot of a vaguely blonde woman&#8217;s nude back. Hot shit! That- and the normal technical troubles that have become de rigeur at this blog- are why I didn&#8217;t bother with the pics.</p>
<p>There are plenty of places online where you can find naked boobs on the beach, and a frontal shot no less. I suggest going there for your tittilation (pun intended).</p>
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		<title>By: matt_schiavenza</title>
		<link>http://mattschiavenza.com/2009/08/24/foreign-woman-removes-top-at-beach-in-qingdao-causes-major-disturbance/comment-page-1/#comment-81301</link>
		<dc:creator>matt_schiavenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think culture indeed is a major deterministic factor here. My &#039;rule of law&#039; comment was more a crack at what has become a stated priority of the Chinese government going forward than an actual analysis of the situation.

My basic belief is that foreigners are allowed to act weird in China so long as they don&#039;t get in the way of the Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think culture indeed is a major deterministic factor here. My &#8216;rule of law&#8217; comment was more a crack at what has become a stated priority of the Chinese government going forward than an actual analysis of the situation.</p>
<p>My basic belief is that foreigners are allowed to act weird in China so long as they don&#8217;t get in the way of the Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: Lousie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lousie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Chinese, I could not see what illustrated by the author in this case. In my view, I think that the reason that the beach officials were preventing from doing so, no illustrating the author&#039;s conclusion: &quot;China is a nation that respects the rule of law!&quot; It was only that the she was a foreign woman, in such situation, in China, people take it very carefully in order to avoid the trouble. The beach officers knew clearly that they had to deal with by the reasonable, and afraid of self-discretion to cause trouble to them. The claim of &quot;the absence of a clear legal statute regarding these matters&quot; was a good reason for them to do nothing in this case.

My point is that the author tried to illustrate this case in the term of law, but it may be a culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Chinese, I could not see what illustrated by the author in this case. In my view, I think that the reason that the beach officials were preventing from doing so, no illustrating the author&#8217;s conclusion: &#8220;China is a nation that respects the rule of law!&#8221; It was only that the she was a foreign woman, in such situation, in China, people take it very carefully in order to avoid the trouble. The beach officers knew clearly that they had to deal with by the reasonable, and afraid of self-discretion to cause trouble to them. The claim of &#8220;the absence of a clear legal statute regarding these matters&#8221; was a good reason for them to do nothing in this case.</p>
<p>My point is that the author tried to illustrate this case in the term of law, but it may be a culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Travellers&#8217; Tales - The FEER Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Top That</title>
		<link>http://mattschiavenza.com/2009/08/24/foreign-woman-removes-top-at-beach-in-qingdao-causes-major-disturbance/comment-page-1/#comment-81282</link>
		<dc:creator>Travellers&#8217; Tales - The FEER Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Top That</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] episode involving a foreign lady sunbathing topless on a Qingdao beach, translated by Matt Shiavenza, has provoked amazement among netizens. Not just because the Bulgarian sunbather gathered a crowd [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] episode involving a foreign lady sunbathing topless on a Qingdao beach, translated by Matt Shiavenza, has provoked amazement among netizens. Not just because the Bulgarian sunbather gathered a crowd [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jocelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jocelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt, thanks for the interesting post, and great translation!

Your comment about China as a nation that respects rule of law caught my eye. This is definitely a case where the officials did respect the rule of law -- but it did happen in a large city. The farther you get away from a major metropolis in China, the more lawless things get. I&#039;ve spent a lot of time out in the country in China, b/c my inlaws live there, and I&#039;ve experienced some pretty blatant instances where rule of law was ignored.

In any event, thanks for sharing, and keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt, thanks for the interesting post, and great translation!</p>
<p>Your comment about China as a nation that respects rule of law caught my eye. This is definitely a case where the officials did respect the rule of law &#8212; but it did happen in a large city. The farther you get away from a major metropolis in China, the more lawless things get. I&#8217;ve spent a lot of time out in the country in China, b/c my inlaws live there, and I&#8217;ve experienced some pretty blatant instances where rule of law was ignored.</p>
<p>In any event, thanks for sharing, and keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: matt_schiavenza</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt_schiavenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Vlad. Sorry if the story didn&#039;t conform to your expectations. I just thought it was funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Vlad. Sorry if the story didn&#8217;t conform to your expectations. I just thought it was funny.</p>
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		<title>By: smh</title>
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		<dc:creator>smh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was pretty bland. The people raising objections seemed to be old timers while everyone else didn&#039;t seem to give a shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was pretty bland. The people raising objections seemed to be old timers while everyone else didn&#8217;t seem to give a shit.</p>
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