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	<title>Comments on: On Authority</title>
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		<title>By: chriswaugh_bj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s cops were talking about, I have the same reaction to Chinese cops as New Zealand cops, and that is certainly not defiance. For customs and immigration its the same. 

With other &quot;authority&quot; figures, it would depend on the situation. I did once bawl out a woman in the hospital in Tianjin that handles foreigners&#039; health checks because she refused to recognise the health certificate I&#039;d brought from Beijing. I was sent to the director who knew that Beijing certificates have a super-fancy stamp that needs to be held at a certain angle to be seen. Problem solved- and there was no way in hell I was going to redo my health check in that filthy dump of an excuse for a hospital. I&#039;ve stood over my waiban to make necessary repairs to my apartment&#039;s water supply happen faster than &quot;in a few days&quot;. In cases like that I don&#039;t think it is inappropriate to throw a bit of weight around, and I have seen my wife and other Chinese do similar things in similar situations. That&#039;s not disrespect for Chinese people, that&#039;s sticking up for yourself. 

I&#039;d certainly never try that on anybody with legal authority, like a cop or customs officer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s cops were talking about, I have the same reaction to Chinese cops as New Zealand cops, and that is certainly not defiance. For customs and immigration its the same. </p>
<p>With other &#8220;authority&#8221; figures, it would depend on the situation. I did once bawl out a woman in the hospital in Tianjin that handles foreigners&#8217; health checks because she refused to recognise the health certificate I&#8217;d brought from Beijing. I was sent to the director who knew that Beijing certificates have a super-fancy stamp that needs to be held at a certain angle to be seen. Problem solved- and there was no way in hell I was going to redo my health check in that filthy dump of an excuse for a hospital. I&#8217;ve stood over my waiban to make necessary repairs to my apartment&#8217;s water supply happen faster than &#8220;in a few days&#8221;. In cases like that I don&#8217;t think it is inappropriate to throw a bit of weight around, and I have seen my wife and other Chinese do similar things in similar situations. That&#8217;s not disrespect for Chinese people, that&#8217;s sticking up for yourself. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d certainly never try that on anybody with legal authority, like a cop or customs officer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pffefer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

You nailed it already, it is the first one (&quot;I subconsciously see the Chinese as being weak and effeminate and easy to dominate&quot;). It happened to many people. It is really because deep down we perceive ourselves superior to the Chinese (it might or might not be racial); because they are considered poorer, weaker, third-worldy. This is actually similar to how western colonists treated people they subjugated a century or two ago. The general attitude of the Chinese actually helps make it worse: They try so hard to court and accommodate foreigners (especially white people) as if the Chinese themselves were second-class citizens, so some foreigners in China (especially the expats) got used to the &quot;I am your bitch&quot; attitude and think this is how they should be dealing with the Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>You nailed it already, it is the first one (&#8220;I subconsciously see the Chinese as being weak and effeminate and easy to dominate&#8221;). It happened to many people. It is really because deep down we perceive ourselves superior to the Chinese (it might or might not be racial); because they are considered poorer, weaker, third-worldy. This is actually similar to how western colonists treated people they subjugated a century or two ago. The general attitude of the Chinese actually helps make it worse: They try so hard to court and accommodate foreigners (especially white people) as if the Chinese themselves were second-class citizens, so some foreigners in China (especially the expats) got used to the &#8220;I am your bitch&#8221; attitude and think this is how they should be dealing with the Chinese.</p>
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